Lippisch P.20A/B/N (Jach)

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Re: Lippisch P.20A/B/N (Jach)

Postby pbhawkin » Wed Jan 10, 2018 20:57

coming along very nicely Miguel.
Here is a picture of one for sale on the Japanese Buyee site that I thought might interest you (there are others too if you are interested):
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Re: Lippisch P.20A/B/N (Jach)

Postby Mig88 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 22:45

Thank you all for your comments. Things have slowed down a bit but I hope to have them picking up again soon. Yes, Smeg, I think so too as I keep seeing them like Komets especially from above. The amazing thing is I haven't yet built a Komet in any scale :oops: !

Thank you Peter for the pic. That one's nicly done and airbrushed too! Mine will all be brush-painted. I can't quite see if the builder made a cockpit or not though it seems there is something inside. The only thing I don't like is that wing-mounted antenna but that's a personal thing of mine. The other criticism is that the join below the tailplane on one side hasn't been properly dealt with ;) ! I filled it on mine with Kristal Klear.

Thanks to the picture I've spotted something I missed: the loop antenna. I have been building with the instructions of the day fighter and this only comes with the night fighter the reason being, as far as I can see, that the antenna comes in the etched fret which is only included with the latter!! Since the fret comes with four, I've decided to add it to all. On a couple it will affect the paint job but since they are only on first coats, it's not serious!!

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Re: Lippisch P.20A/B/N (Jach)

Postby Mig88 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 16:29

WIP update - Some progress

As promised a word about the underwing stores. The fuel tanks only have one problem, there is a protrusion at the front of one half which isn't properly compensated for on the other. The hole has to be deepened for the two halves to join properly at the front. The X-4 missiles are another problem. They don't quite match the illustration in the painting instructions which is correct. The rear end is pointed when it should be the rocket exhaust, the rear fins are missing and the nose is short missing the proximity fuse detonator thingy. I've decided to fix the rear and front end problems, the rear fins being too small and too much work.

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In the photo above, the top missile is untouched and the bottom one is modified. In all cases this is a "what-if" kit so these could be left alone as "what-if" variants of the X-4 although I would just fix the exhaust as I did on the Jach P.1101 kits at least!

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Finally a shot of the quartet as they were yesterday, undergoing painting. I've changed my mind on part of the nightfighter schemes, by deciding to go for squiggles with the darker colours. The paintworks are not finished yet.
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Re: Lippisch P.20A/B/N (Jach)

Postby ajmm » Sun Jan 21, 2018 17:41

So cool!
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Re: Lippisch P.20A/B/N (Jach)

Postby smeg1959 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:48

Can't beat a good squiggle! ;)
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Re: Lippisch P.20A/B/N (Jach)

Postby Mig88 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 22:08

WIP update - Paint and decals

A quick update. I've just finished putting the decals. I ended up putting the wing crosses further outboard than indicated on the instructions because of the underwing pylons which had already been glued in place. Since my kits don't represent any of the options proposed by Jach, I used the instructions as a guide for markings and stencils and for the location of emblems and numbers. I did put all the stencils except for the dotted lines which I decided to ignore. I had no problems with the decals. They left their backing paper quickly but, as with all good Czech decals, plenty of water on the kit surface is a must or else they stick like limpets.

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On putting the decals I've noticed one or two spots on the paintwork that need to be retouched and that I had missed. Otherwise, I should soon be moving into the final phase of applying matt varnish, weathering and adding the stores and radar antenna (on the N1). I'm hoping to finish in a week's time.
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Re: Lippisch P.20A/B/N (Jach)

Postby Mig88 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 20:41

I've added the radar antennae on the P.20N1. The first thing was to decide where to put them. When I built Jach's P.1101N, I had to relocate the aerials as the instructions hadn't taken into account the guns which would have blown them off immediately! With the P.20, the location indicated, though a little vague, was much better. I made some small indentations along the nose panel line just above the fuselage guns. The tricky part is getting the etched metal antennae straight in position but I managed. I've glued them on now to strenthen the bond with paint and besides I had to retouch the paintwork at the join. These photos were taken after gluing the antennae but before retouching the paint on the blades themselves which had come off with handling.

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Personally, if the P.20 had ever been built I doubt the N1 option with old radar antennae would have been made. The N2 with the radar in a pod would have been more likely. The nightfighter Hellcats were using podded radars in 1945 so the Germans would have gotten there quickly too. Anyhow, it looks cool anyway!
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Re: Lippisch P.20A/B/N (Jach)

Postby smeg1959 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:40

What a stunning quartet of little beauties! :mrgreen:
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Re: Lippisch P.20A/B/N (Jach)

Postby pbhawkin » Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:13

Yes, I agree very nice, well done
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Re: Lippisch P.20A/B/N (Jach)

Postby Mig88 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 19:51

Finished!!

Despite some problems with varnishes (I can hardly wait to be able to use the airbrush again!), I managed to finish all four kits this past weekend. Overall I am very pleased and they really look cool. As I was finishing I thought of several other possible schemes. When I started, I had considered making one of the nightfighters Hungarian but I only had markings of the earlier type with a white cross instead of hollow so I ditched that idea. A Hungarian machine or a Finnish or even an Italian RSI scheme would look great too, not to mention captured aircraft in allied markings. As a final mention, the Japanese option proposed by Jach wouldn't be bad either...

Anyhow, on with the final photos. I'll be posting photos of each plane as I finish going through them so I'll be uploading them kit by kit throughout the week.

First up the Lippisch P.20A "Yellow 3" of JG53 in a clean configuration with no underwing stores. RLM82 and RLM83 top surfaces with RLM76 undersurfaces and black Reich defence markings on nose and wingtips. I cut two lines of the kill markings from one of the kill decal options (the other line going to the N2).

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