Mark_W's Revell Tornado F3s

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Mark_W's Revell Tornado F3s

Postby Mark_W » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:29

Hi,

I have 2 more Revell Tornado IDS in the stash...and I also have this Dragon boxing of the Tornado F3 Firebirds:
1.0 dragon-boxart.jpg


I built the Dragon F3 some time ago. The Revell kit seems nicer - for instance:
- much better wheels, cockpit and exhausts
- Dragon nose looks a bit weird to me
- Dragon has over-done rivet detail
- Could not get the Dragon canopy to fit!

Then I stumbled across this webpage - a guy managed to convert the Revel 1/32 GR.1 to an F3: https://designer.home.xs4all.nl/models/ ... esin-1.htm

Can this be done in 1/144? Might be a bit crazy, but I thought I'd give it a try!

To make it more interesting, I'm going to try to not use any parts from the Dragon F3 kits. Though I do have this GR.1 "Mig Eater" boxing - I've already used a few parts in my last tornado builds. Might use a few odds and ends in this build:
1.1 dragon mig eater.jpg


I built the forward fuselage and chopped off the nose - no turning back now!
1.2 Nose removed.JPG


Added about 6mm of length to the nosecone. Started sanding them to shape:
1.3 plastic added to nose.JPG


Then added about 4.5mm of extra length to the end of the nose section. Use .7mm thick plastic card and a 5mm tube section:
1.4 extra fuel tank.JPG


Glued on the roughly shaped noses and did a bit of sanding. Looking OK so far:
1.5 fuselage assembled.JPG


You can see here I've used the Dragon GR.1 wings on one of the kits. To me, the Dragon wings look better than the Revell ones - panel lines are finer and look more accurate. Revell wings look slightly too narrow to me. The tailplanes look nicer on the dragon kit as well - thinnner and with better shape.

Added 1.5 mm to the front of the exhausts. Weirdly, the plans I have suggest that the rear fuselage of the Revell kit is too long...if so this step might be unnecessary, and instead I should have moved the tailplanes forward a bit:
1.6 afterburner extension.JPG


I really do prefer a proper cockpit with decal instrument panels to Dragon "robots":
1.7 cockpit.JPG

1.8 cockpit.JPG


For one model I got a bit carried away with sanding the nose, broke through the plastic on the nosecone and needed to putty up. Regardless, I think the noses are an improvement on the Dragon kit.

Here you see the mods on the tail section. Added plastic card to the base of the fin to allow for the different shape of the F3 tail. Also, I've added plastic to the base of the elevators for the teardrop shaped plates. Seems to work better than my previous efforts...
1.9 tail mods.JPG


I want to make one of the F3's fairly clean without under fuselage missiles (an airshow bird). The front missiles are recessed - made the groove using a round file. Made guides from layered sticky tape. A bit nerve-wracking but pretty happy with the result. Only did one plane as I'm planning on sanding down the missiles rather than making the recess for the other.

Made the rear missile pylons from plastic card.
1.10 missile bays.JPG


Main construction is now done - the green plastic really shows off the parts which have been added from plastic card!

Also added:
- upper fuselage light
- tail strakes
- intake below the fuselage
- sharper wing leading edges

Removed:
- front tailplane intake(?)
- filled RHS gun
- filled multiple holes for the pylons under fuselage and wings which aren't applicable to the F.3


1.11 main construction done top.JPG
1.12 main construction done bottom.JPG


It's taken a fair amount of effort so far - not sure if it's the best way to make an accurate F3, but it's been fun! Should be downhill from here with any luck...

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Re: Mark_W's Revell Tornado F3s

Postby MerlinJones » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:41

Cool project and your thoughtful step-by-step photos are inspirational.
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Re: Mark_W's Revell Tornado F3s

Postby F_IV » Mon Jul 09, 2018 13:33

Nice work Mark. Definitely my sort of build ;)
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Re: Mark_W's Revell Tornado F3s

Postby ajmm » Mon Jul 09, 2018 18:35

Nice! Enjoying this a lot. Thanks for showing your working.

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Re: Mark_W's Revell Tornado F3s

Postby Mark_W » Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:55

Thanks guys - some more progress on these...

Here's where I ended up after priming - you can see how different the F3 is to the GR1.

2.1 assembly done.JPG

2.2 nose.JPG

2.3 underside.JPG


I found a lot of flaws once the kits were primed. Most of these were around the mid-fuselage join and the afterburner join and a fair bit of detail was eliminated. Would be better to prime and fix in stages (eg before adding engine intakes, tail etc).

Painted and masked the metallic areas on the tail, and the nose gun. The shape of the nose gun panels seems quite different to the GR.1. There also seem to be extra metal panels under the tail.
2.4 metallic masking tail.JPG
2.4 metallic masking underside.JPG


Painted then masked the undersides in light grey. The pattern is fairly complicated and the Dragon instructions don't seem 100% complete (eg areas under the engine intakes and wing roots should be light grey).
2.6 light grey masking.JPG


The Revell kit sidewinders look to fat - but just about right for ASRAAMs! Removed the fins and will add tailfins after painting:
2.7 ASRAAMs.JPG


Sidewinder rails are quite different for Dragon (grey) vs Revell (green). I reduced the Dragon ones in size, but note also they also slope in a different direction to Revell...
2.7 sidewinder rails.JPG


Just need to paint upper surfaces Barley Grey then time for decals.

One aircraft has a red spine - will paint this after applying the tail decals. Should make it easier to match the red colours between the two, or at least fade one into the other...

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Re: Mark_W's Revell Tornado F3s

Postby BigReg » Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:44

Nice work Mark. What markings are you going to use?
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Re: Mark_W's Revell Tornado F3s

Postby MerlinJones » Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:04

Some very nice work going on there. I've always liked the F3...so much better looking than the standard Tonka.
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Re: Mark_W's Revell Tornado F3s

Postby Mark_W » Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:55

Thanks guys!

@bigreg - gonna use the decals from the dragon boxing. I like how dragon gives you markings for a special scheme and a regular squadron plane. Would be good if Revell did that more often!

@merlin - yes the fuselage extensions make the f3 look like a completely different airplane - much sleeker!

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Re: Mark_W's Revell Tornado F3s

Postby MerlinJones » Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:23

mark_webster wrote:@merlin - yes the fuselage extensions make the f3 look like a completely different airplane - much sleeker!



...And the tail! Don't forget the sleeker fin. :D
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Re: Mark_W's Revell Tornado F3s

Postby smeg1959 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:10

Coming together very nicely. :D
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