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Re: We (I) need Schneider Trophy seaplanes

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It really is the "Fiat 500" of the skies!

http://airwar.ru/image/idop/law1/fiatc29/

this may help but doesn't show length overall
http://airwar.ru/image/idop/law1/fiatc29/fiatc29-2.gif

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moresby wrote:
Wed Jan 12, 2022 13:02
Just received THIS one hour ago from Shapeways:
[ but, looking at this pic, it really looks tinier than the other red idrocorsa...

What do you think?
I know it is comparing apples to oranges, but some of those early seaplanes where quite tiny. As a "for info" the Krin series had a number range of aircraft of differing sizes "close to scale" - both the Gee-Bee Racer (also tiny) and the Curtiss (also tiny) both look "too small" when compared to "proper sized aircraft of the period" e.g the DH88 Comet....
https://kampfgruppe144.blogspot.com/200 ... kirin.html
and the DH-88 isnt that large
https://www.airhistory.net/photo/149823/G-ACSR

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Re: We (I) need Schneider Trophy seaplanes

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Decapod wrote:
Wed Jan 12, 2022 14:08
It really is the "Fiat 500" of the skies!

http://airwar.ru/image/idop/law1/fiatc29/

this may help but doesn't show length overall
http://airwar.ru/image/idop/law1/fiatc29/fiatc29-2.gif
Yes, but the Abarth version! :D

The rudder height is obvioisly ca 1 m, the whole aircraft fuselage should then be roughly 5.5 m in lengh. That means 3.8 cm in 1/144 - that is small!
And although I know the cramped seating in a Fiat 500, I doubt the pilot of this plane had that much space . . .

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Re: We (I) need Schneider Trophy seaplanes

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ID19 wrote:
Wed Jan 12, 2022 15:24

Yes, but the Abarth version! :D

The rudder height is obvioisly ca 1 m, the whole aircraft fuselage should then be roughly 5.5 m in lengh. That means 3.8 cm in 1/144 - that is small!
And although I know the cramped seating in a Fiat 500, I doubt the pilot of this plane had that much space . . .
Mario Agello (who later got the still-standing speed record for piston-engined idroplanes on Mc-72) was chosen as a C-29 pilot for his small stature yet he complained about the cramped cockpit.
My model's fuselage lenght matches ID19's 3,8 cm 1/144 expected lenght so it seems to be correctly sized: unbelievable!
I've seen the original in Vigna Di Valle Museum half year ago but I didn't realize it was so small.
I suppose the canopy was just able to contain the upper part of the pilot head...

Decapod, thanks for the drawing : now I need to find very very very small white numbers and letters -and to scratchbuilt a couple of propeller blades.

Oh, and THIS is the latest Fiat 500 type (1/1 scale), my 8-months-old Elettrica
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Re: By the way...

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moresby wrote:
Wed Jan 12, 2022 13:02
Just received THIS one hour ago from Shapeways:
Fiat C-29, 1929 Schneider trophy
This looks rather good - what's the detail like? (hard to see like that)

Do you plan to build it in the foreseeable future?

I have seen the seller also has a trolley for the plane:
Fiat C.29 trolley, CADfish models, smooth fine detail plastic, shapeways 01.jpg
Fiat C.29 trolley, CADfish models, smooth fine detail plastic, shapeways 03.jpg
Cheers,
Peter

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Re: We (I) need Schneider Trophy seaplanes

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The model is really small: I've tried my best with my phone (my camera isn't available right now).
Here you are
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Re: We (I) need Schneider Trophy seaplanes

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That looks rather good!

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Re: We (I) need Schneider Trophy seaplanes

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moresby wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 22:12
The model is really small: I've tried my best with my phone (my camera isn't available right now).
Here you are
Thank you, moresby... looks really good! Seems like I should add this to my Schneider Trophy stash...

Cheers,
Peter

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Re: We (I) need Schneider Trophy seaplanes

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Wings, rudder and tailplane have a squared edge that may need a bit of sanding: floaters struts should be even thinner and their section shouldn't be round but ellyptical, yet it would take extra care sanding it to shape without breaking everything. The real main defect (besides the missing propeller blades) is the lack of detail in the engine exhaust line.

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Re: We (I) need Schneider Trophy seaplanes

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moresby wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 14:28
Wings, rudder and tailplane have a squared edge that may need a bit of sanding: floaters struts should be even thinner and their section shouldn't be round but ellyptical, yet it would take extra care sanding it to shape without breaking everything. The real main defect (besides the missing propeller blades) is the lack of detail in the engine exhaust line.
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I have to confess something....
I had bought the same Fiat C.29, which I tried to cast in metal, but as it was too thin, I capitulated...
I know, I know.... Shame on me... :? :? :?

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