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RLM Luftwaffe comparison chart

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I have compiled a colour chart of RLM paint chips taken from Merrick's book (Luftwaffe Camouflage and Markings 1933-1945 Vol.2 2005) along with a couple from the Kookaburra book by J. Smith (The Modeller's Luftwaffe Painting Guide 1979) and their claimed hobby paint equivalents from Testor's Model Master enamels and acryl range, Humbrol Enamels, Tamiya acrylics, WEM enamels, Life color arcylics, Vallejo Model Air and Model Color acrylics, Polly Scale acrylic and JPS acrylic paints.

The small notations under some paint matches(2:34, 5:116) is firstly the ratio and secondly the paint number (for Tamiya and Humbrol mixes).

'HCS' refers to a mix as per the old Humbrol Colour Systems book.

JPS paint was included as Mr. Popp, who makes this paint in Germany, worked in conjunction with Mr. J. Kiroff, who was the paint technology advisor in Merrick's book, to make the JPS range of paints.

You will note a couple of alternate colour chips (2005 Merrick versus 1979 Smith) for RLM79 and 83 and that different manufacturers have made their matches to one colour but not the other (IE Model Master to the 1979 Smith version for RLM79 and 83 and JPS to the 2005 Merrick darker RLM83 colour).

I am missing the JPS RLM79 paint (can anyone point me to a bottle?).

Some of the information may be out of date as the sources I have used may not be current.
Please note that the Humbrol site makes NO claim that the names on their tins represent the same colour as the names of the camouflage used on the planes we are modelling (ie RLM colours)!!

You can download them from my site in the links section: http://www.petersplanes.com/links.htm

I have also produced a Excel sheet for Tamiya, Humbrol and other paint equivalents for (most) RLM, French, Italian, RAF/FAA and USA colours. This is available from my website for downloading in the links section http://www.petersplanes.com/RLM%20colour%20chart.xls (http://www.petersplanes.com/links.htm)

It now has 16 references of suggestions for various mixes to achieve (supposedly) a match to the actual WW2 colours.

Remember these are other peoples suggestions as to what they thought was a best match and I have only compiled them into this one spot.

I have added some notes about some of the paint suggestions and mixes in the RLM section as to what I have tried against the Merrick colour chips (some are way off!).

My aim was to include as many paint mixes from varied sources in ONE spot as I could so that a quick and easy comparison can be done. And allow you to see the variety that other people think is a good match and decide for yourself. Also RGB and CMYK numbers are given to allow you to do correct colours on computer generated images or even to take it to the local paint shop and get them to mix up a batch in acrylic or enamel paints!

For example looking at RLM 83 there are at least 8 'recipes' most of them different from each other.
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I hope you find these useful and that it will allow you to decide what paint is the better match for your Luftwaffe paint schemes.
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Peter

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DAMN!
Kudos on all the work you've put into all these charts, going to be a great source for me later this year. When it winter here in the UK i build models and i plan a few Luftwaffe.

Noticed recemlty that Vallejo Air has some new RLM paints added to there range.

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Hi.
These sheets have been updated with the addition of some Mr.Hobby (Gunze) colours. I just have to get the time and money to buy the rest and add them!
See my website for the latest version here: http://www.petersplanes.com/links.htm
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Hi all,

Here is a updated RLM hobby paint comparison chart.
I have made the background in each row the same colour as the RLM paint chip (from the centre column) to hopefully show the difference better between the hobby colour and the RLM colour.
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chart 2
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I will add the NEW Humbrol enamel paints when they become available in Australia as well.
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Hi Peter

In your XLS I see you have (the discontinued) H115 down for RLM63b. If my monitor is close to correct then I find that H115 is more like RLM63a - I have a tin of H115 and it is similar to Model Master RLM78.

Oh yes...I also thought that RLM 63 (before it was deleted) was similar to RLM 02 (but not quite).

I also ask about your Humbrol 65 - how old/new is it? I ask because that looks a different shade or tone to mine (mine bought about 2 years ago?). Yours looks a lot darker. Could this be a variation of the Humbrol/Airfix/Heller/Hornby ownership saga (regarding paint manufacture...)?

Edit - did you see the apparent colours from the airfix website for the colours? They do look good but I have not heard from the Australian distributor yet as to when they are coming to Aus)

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Wege,
Hi.
The Excel sheet are NOT my suggestions, they are suggestions from OTHER people that I have found on the web in various forums and manufacturers charts and complied in one spot. I make NO claim to THEIR accuracy!
The places I found these suggestions are listed at the top of each column.

There is and has been confusion over the RLM numbers as well as the colours that it represents and such things as 63a or 63b add to this confusion. As do paint manufacturers like Model Master labelling their tins incorrectly (AKA RLM 72 v 73)!!
There are whole books written on this! But I guess some of the confusion is (for example) weathering, wear and tear and even different batches or makers of that particular tin of paint, of say RLM63 that is different to fresh RLM63 and someone saying that this is a variation.

I think my Humbrol tin is about the same age!
here is a scan of the Humbrol 'colour system' book for their mixes for RLM colours and it shows what the lid of Humbrol tin 65 looks like.
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I am eagerly awaiting the new Humbrol enamels arrival in Australia! The postage for the 13 new RLM colours from the Humbrol website is 30 pounds!!! And on Ebay they are going for 3-5 Australian dollars each! Frontline hobbies in Newcastle has them listed but not as available as yet.
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Peter

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Question.

Have you some thoughts as to something appropriate from either Humbrol, Revell, Tamiya (common paints in Australia) as to an appropriate match for RLM77 light grey.

I have in mind Humbrol 166 or a lightened version of such.

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That'll be Humbrol H196?
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Did you end up getting your hands on the new humbrol RLM stuff to compare?

Aside-Does anyone in Perth, WA have any?

Otherwise where to order from in Australia (online)

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Wege,
Yes I did get the new Humbrol acrylic paints (from Brunel hobbies in Cheltenham Vic) at $4.00 a tin. I got all 13 tins in the range (from RLM02, 70-83 but no RLM77 or 80).
I also got some of the new Enamel paint from ToysOnline.com.au (RLM02, 70-73 only) to try out.
So far I have painted out the Acrylics on my chart and they are one of the best range of paints for matching the chips VERY well (RLM 81 is too chocolate in colour and 82 too light green in colour).
I will do the enamels this weekend.
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