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'Landminenkehrmaschine' or land minesweeper. German. first of it's kind, back in the day.

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Big tracks, small turret. Australian.

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Snow- or mud plow. Used in the Falklands and Vietnam. Look at the size of that plow :shock:

If you like what you see it could be yours for just the shipping costs.

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Isn't there anybody interested in some free models? Is it rubbish? Clearly I have no idea what these are, maybe somebody can help me out identifying them?

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What do you need identifying?

- the manufacturer?
- the actual make/model of the items?

The first one, looks like a Russian 6-wheel armoured car, BA-6 (or, as a long shot 30s/40s Japanese/Chinese)?
The "Australian" tank, looks like a Vickers Light Tank Mk VI?
the last one (grey plough) looks like a Renault FT-17?

I dont know who would have made the kits.

the FT-17 looks 3D printed

The other two might be Fairy or KDK, but are lacking seriously oversized rivets (even the MK VI, is a little subtle for them :lol: )or annoying split tracks - so, unless anyone actually has these in their collections already? (unless they are knock-offs cast from white metal versions? Having said that the partial label on the looks like a photo copy of Fairy, except Fairy kits dont come on sprues - so it could be another garage maker?

https://www.hlj.com/1-144-scale-french-tanks-firm078
https://www.hlj.com/1-144-scale-british ... ce-firm047


Has that been any help, anyone else got any further insight?

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Those are really rarities!
The first one most probably is a swedish built Landsverk L 181, used by the Netherlands, Estonia and Ireland before and in the early days of WWII. Some of the Dutch vehicles were obviously later used by the Germans. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AB_Landsverk ).


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PS: If nobody else wants it, I'd go for the Landsverk! Could fit in the 1940 GB . . .or in one to come on the Falklands :mrgreen:

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Good spotting on the AB!

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The second one took a while to find out, but now I'm quite sure it's a Vickers Carden Loyd A4E12 Amphibious Tank from the '30s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickers-C ... bious_tank
What the three models have in common:
    Both the Landsverk and the A4E12 were used, albeit in small numbers, in the Dutch East Indies. However, the Dutch operated exactly ONE Renault FT for testing purposes - after all from 1927 - 1940. The history of this vehicle can be found here: https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww1-neth ... h-service/
      Both the Landsverk and the FT served with the Estonian Army until 1940, the A4E12, however, most probably not.

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      oh well, one out of three - i'll get my coat...


      although, could the "Vickers" be this japanese tank?

      https://www.hlj.com/1-144-scale-japanes ... -6-firm006

      this could be the source of the vehicles in Dutch Service?
      https://www.hlj.com/1-144-scale-belgian ... 40-firm007


      tO be fair, with the shape of some of the Fairy and KdK kits - we could play different installments of "what's this kit" for a long time ;)

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      bluedonkey99 wrote:
      Sat Jun 20, 2020 17:47
      oh well, one out of three - i'll get my coat...


      although, could the "Vickers" be this japanese tank?

      https://www.hlj.com/1-144-scale-japanes ... -6-firm006

      this could be the source of the vehicles in Dutch Service?
      https://www.hlj.com/1-144-scale-belgian ... 40-firm007


      tO be fair, with the shape of some of the Fairy and KdK kits - we could play different installments of "what's this kit" for a long time ;)
      No need to get your coat, because you're probably right with the Vickers:
      https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Development ... 2%80%9345)
      Apparently it was also sold to China, the Japanese then used captured tanks themselves - and then of course it can show up on Fairy Kikakus page as Japanese Army Vehicle.
      I guess you're also right with the Landsverk from Fairy Kikaku, that must be the model.

      What's irritating is the term(s) M-31/M-36; none of the vehicles is referred to under these designations anywhere else. But then - anybody around who speaks and reads Japanese? Could shed some light on this issue!

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      I seem to remember the M-36 designation was used with the Dutch army for the Landsverk of which two platoons were operational during tge Blitz Krieg. The M-38 was an armored car designed and developed by Dutch car maker DAF, of which a third platoon was fielded. The Landsverks were used to ecmvacuate the royal family from The Hague I think.

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      The more I compare the Vickers Carden-Loyd A4E12 with available model photos, the more I think it is a knockoff of the Fairy version. Look closely at the turret and the sides of the hull and there's those battleship sized rivets just waiting to be sanded away! As there were a number of examples purchased for use in China and the Dutch East Indies, several ended up in Japanese hands, as this 1/35 rendition would seem to confirm.

      And, if he's still sitting there forlornly in the Netherlands, Lex, I'd be happy to take him off your hands ... and that's despite never being used by we Aussies! If no-one's laid claim to the FT-17, I'll take him, too. But ... and I could be wrong ... I don't think that projection is anything other than a casting gate, suggesting a 3D master converted to a resin mould.

      Oh, and as surmised above, the Landsverk L181 (Swedish)/Pantserwagen M-36 (Dutch) is also originally Fairy ... that's what's left of the label. But the presence of gates and the colour of the resin are NOT classical Fairy attributes, so another knockoff.

      And in next week's episode of CSI Armoured Vehicle ... :P
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